America's Founding Fathers on Religion

The Founding Fathers were mostly deists who were fairly skeptical of many claims in the Bible and of religious leaders. They also believed strongly in the separation of church and state.


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Memes

12 JAN 2012

 Mystery is a Cover for Absurdity

John Adams comment on a debate he had with a a Major concerning the Divinity.
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A pleasant morning. Saw my classmates Gardner, and Wheeler. Wheeler dined, spent the afternoon, and drank Tea with me. Supped at Major Gardiners, and ingag'd to keep School at Bristol, provided Worcester People, at their insuing March meeting, should change this into a moving School, not otherwise. Major Greene this Evening fell into some conversation with me about the Divinity and Satisfaction of Jesus Christ. All the Argument he advanced was, "that a mere creature, or finite Being, could not make Satisfaction to infinite justice, for any Crimes," and that "these things are very misterious."

(Written in the Margin:)Thus mystery is made a convenient Cover for absurdity.

12 JAN 2012

 Jefferson Clearly Believes in God

At least in this this passage, where he sees the Universe as needing a deity to keep things together. He even appeals to the idea that most people believe there is something, so there must be something. His logic is in error here, but he also lacked the scientific understanding we have today.
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This gives compleatly a gain de cause to the disciples of Ocellus, Timaeus, Spinosa, Diderot and D'Holbach. The argument which they rest on as triumphant and unanswerable is that, in every hypothesis of Cosmogony you must admit an eternal pre-existence of something; and according to the rule of sound philosophy, you are never to employ two principles to solve a difficulty when one will suffice. They say then that it is more simple to believe at once in the eternal pre-existence of the world, as it is now going on, and may for ever go on by the principle of reproduction which we see and witness, than to believe in the eternal pre-existence of an ulterior cause, or Creator of the world, a being whom we see not, and know not, of whose form substance and mode or place of existence, or of action no sense informs us, no power of the mind enables us to delineate or comprehend. On the contrary I hold (without appeal to revelation) that when we take a view of the Universe, in it's parts general or particular, it is impossible for the human mind not to percieve and feel a conviction of design, consummate skill, and indefinite power in every atom of it's composition. The movements of the heavenly bodies, so exactly held in their course by the balance of centrifugal and centripetal forces, the structure of our earth itself, with it's distribution of lands, waters and atmosphere, animal and vegetable bodies, examined in all their minutest particles, insects mere atoms of life, yet as perfectly organised as man or mammoth, the mineral substances, their generation and uses, it is impossible, I say, for the human mind not to believe that there is, in all this, design, cause and effect, up to an ultimate cause, a fabricator of all things from matter and motion, their preserver and regulator while permitted to exist in their present forms, and their regenerator into new and other forms. We see, too, evident proofs of the necessity of a superintending power to maintain the Universe in it's course and order. Stars, well known, have disappeared, new ones have come into view, comets, in their incalculable courses, may run foul of suns and planets and require renovation under other laws; certain races of animals are become extinct; and, were there no restoring power, all existences might extinguish successively, one by one, until all should be reduced to a shapeless chaos. So irresistible are these evidences of an intelligent and powerful Agent that, of the infinite numbers of men who have existed thro' all time, they have believed, in the proportion of a million at least to Unit, in the hypothesis of an eternal pre-existence of a creator, rather than in that of a self-existent Universe. Surely this unanimous sentiment renders this more probable than that of the few in the other hypothesis.

12 JAN 2012

 The Greatest Enemies of the Gospels are Their Believers

Jefferson was very skeptical of the Gospels, which he felt were perverted with miracles that diluted the reformer's message.
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The truth is that the greatest enemies to the doctrines of Jesus are those calling themselves the expositors of them, who have perverted them for the structure of a system of fancy absolutely incomprehensible, and without any foundation in his genuine words. And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors.

24 JAN 2011

 Introduction to the Jefferson Bible

The first title of Jefferson's pairing down of the New Testament gospels states clearly the purpose of the text.
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THE PHILOSOPHY OF JESUS OF NAZARETH

Extracted from the account of his life and doctrines as given by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Being an abridgment of the New Testament for the use of the Indians, unembarrassed with matters of fact or faith beyond the level of their comprehensions. [emphasis mine]

24 JAN 2011

 Jefferson's Intention with “The Philosophy of Jesus of ...

A description of the problems Jefferson had with the gospels in their existing form, which were easily twisted for greedy purposes.
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In extracting the pure principles which he taught, we should have to strip off the artificial vestments in which they have been muffled by priests, who have travestied them into various forms, as instruments of riches and power to themselves. We must dismiss the Platonists and Plotinists, the Stagyrites and Gamalielites, the Eclectics, the Gnostics and Scholastics, their essences and emanations, their logos and demiurges, aeons and daemons, male and female, with a long train of … or, shall I say at once, of nonsense. We must reduce our volume to the simple evangelists, select, even from them, the very words only of Jesus, paring off the amphibologisms into which they have been led, by forgetting often, or not understanding, what had fallen from him, by giving their own misconceptions as his dicta, and expressing unintelligibly for others what they had not understood themselves. There will be found remaining the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man. I have performed this operation for my own use, by cutting verse by verse out of the printed book, and arranging the matter which is evidently his, and which is as easily distinguishable as diamonds in a dunghill. The result is an octavo of forty-six pages, of pure and unsophisticated doctrines.

24 JAN 2011

 Clear Statement that the United States is Not Founded on ...

Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.
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Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.



References

12 JAN 2012

 The earliest diary of John Adams

Books, Brochures, and Chapters>Book:  Adams , John (1966-07-01), The earliest diary of John Adams, Belknap Pr, Retrieved on 2012-01-12
  • Source Material [books.google.com]
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    12 JAN 2012

     Letter from to John Adams

    Personal Communications>Personal Letter:  Jefferson , Thomas (April 11, 1823), Letter from to John Adams, Retrieved on 2012-01-12
  • Source Material [www.beliefnet.com]
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    24 JAN 2011

     Letter to John Adams: Study of Moral Principles

    Personal Communications>Personal Letter:  Thomas, Jefferson (13 Oct 1813), Letter to John Adams: Study of Moral Principles, Retrieved on 2011-01-24
  • Source Material [www.cooperativeindividualism.org]
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    24 JAN 2011

     The Jefferson Bible: The Life and Morals of Jesus of Naza...

    Books, Brochures, and Chapters>Book:  Jefferson , Thomas (2010-09-03), The Jefferson Bible: The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth, Watchmaker Publishing, Retrieved on 2011-01-24
  • Source Material [etext.lib.virginia.edu]
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    24 JAN 2011

     Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States ...

    Legal Materials>Bill, Congressional:  Barlow, Joel (June 7, 1797), Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary, Washington, DC, Retrieved on 2011-01-24
  • Source Material [www.stephenjaygould.org]
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